nepalese raspberry hawthorne mulberry sweet chestnut from "farming for the future" youtube video (brit) ----- Hello, again, it's been a while since I visited. :-) I knew there were some good posts here on winter sowing (http://www.wildlifegardeners.org/forum/north-american-native-plant-propagation- winter-sowing/4043-winter-sowing-tips-techniques.html) and Cold Moist Stratification (http://www.wildlifegardeners.org/forum/north-american-native-plant-propagation-winter-sowing/406 -cold-moist-stratification-important-seed-treatment.html) 10/17/09 ---- I was shocked to read here that earthworms aren't native where I am! So if they were here BEFORE the glaciers, that doesn't count? Those glaciers wiped the slate clean, so to speak? I had a vermicomposting experiment about 5-6 years ago under the sink in a Rubbermaid container, inherited from my then-BF's ex. I accidentally killed them off by transferring them to the compost bin for the summer and forgetting to bring them in before winter. They couldn't handle enough kitchen scraps, so I didn't really see the point of getting "special" worms instead of just using the ones I assumed were "native" and which are certainly plentiful outdoors. :rolleyes: Don't get me wrong: I LOVE natives! I want to grow every edible one I can find. :D I don't plan to restrict myself to them, but this site has piqued my curiousity to look up a lot more plants to at least find out their status. E.g., I found out that my Salad Burnet isn't native, but Greater Burnet is pretty close: it's at least in Pennsylvania, so my CNY property could be in or adjacent to its level III zone. I have a young Serviceberry tree, I'm currently working on Paw-Paws and Persimmons. (Never having tasted either, but wanting to!) But OK...I've bought Manchurian Apricot and Bush Cherries, too. I really want the book "75 Perennial Vegetables" and now that I'm more aware of it, I'd prioritize native ones--they should grow better! I googled Japanese Honeysuckle, and it sounds like it's a vine, not the huge bushes invading my property? Here's how I deal with MY 9' Honeysuckles.. oh wait, darn, I can't inline my own pix and video? Here it is: Bobcat and Auger versus Honeysuckle: http://january31.com/garden/honeysuckle-battle.htm Hehehe. The "front yard" at my yurt sort of looked like a tornado hit. :D ------ Plants that come to mind as having naturalized that are being referred to as wildflowers would be Dame's Rocket, Baby's Breath, Ox-eye Daisy, Queen Anne's Lace, Morning Glory, Chicory/Cornflower, Periwinkle, Bachelors Buttons, Mullein, Shasta Daisy, Lily of the Valley, Wallflower, and so forth and so on. Seneca Hill Perennials near Syracuse (www.senecahillperennials.com) wildflower.org (which often gives pre-Colombian distributions in addition to current ones)